(15th May)
Okay bit of a cheeky title. We know that to the real world Kate was a Hero when the flight crashed, so the Oceanic 6 were on the plane but………………….. no big theory just a small observation.
The six people appear to be the six who had difficulty boarding the plane/ were close to not being ‘registered’ as on the official flights manifest.
Hurley almost did not board the flight, but begged the airport attendant to allow him on board.
Sun almost did not board, she planned to leave Jin at Sydney airport, disappearing to start a new life but changed her mind at the final moment.
Jack almost did not board the plane because he had not made the proper arrangements for Christians coffin.
Sayid almost did not board the flight, he was in interrogation after Shannon reported him to airport security as an arab man who had left his bag unattended.
Kate almost did not board the plane because of the case of guns. (Also I presume she did not have a passport meaning she was not properly registered.)
Aaron was obviously not registered as being on the flight.
Were the oceanic 6 not 'supposed' to be on flight 815 in the first place? I don’t know.
Thursday, 26 June 2008
Wednesday, 25 June 2008
Ben Lies still, Time moves around him
I absolutely loved episode 409, especially when when we see Ben first inhale in the Sahara landscape.
I noticed that in the opening shot, he is lying on **very** distinctive cracked earth, a patch that appears to be where water once was. In the blink of an eye the ground he is lying on is thick sand. See below.
So assuming this is not a hideous continuity error.
Does this show that Ben is lying still while time passes around him, i.e he lies in the same place geographically while time rushes past him, the piece of land he is lying on goes through an ice age (hence the vapour and the jacket), a dried water region to it's modern form the Sahara dessert in a matter of seconds.....A La H.G. Wells, The Time Machine.
or
That he lies still while his geographic location and date changes around him, i.e he goes from the Arctic to a dried water region to the Sahara.
Any thoughts??
While I am on the crazy time possibilities, noticed this too.................
The shot in 'The Shape of Things to Come' (409) really reminded me of the shot in 'Everyman for himself' (304).
The distance, the height, the way Ben looks at it. Just imagine the desert scene filled with water. Maybe the island is always in the same place but thousands of years apart, could this explain the polar bear remains in the desert? I wondered if the snow covered mountains outside the listening station resembled the above but I couldn't find a screen cap.
Hope you loved 'The Shape of Things to Come' as much as I did! So many things to think about!
Thanks ; )
I noticed that in the opening shot, he is lying on **very** distinctive cracked earth, a patch that appears to be where water once was. In the blink of an eye the ground he is lying on is thick sand. See below.
So assuming this is not a hideous continuity error.
Does this show that Ben is lying still while time passes around him, i.e he lies in the same place geographically while time rushes past him, the piece of land he is lying on goes through an ice age (hence the vapour and the jacket), a dried water region to it's modern form the Sahara dessert in a matter of seconds.....A La H.G. Wells, The Time Machine.
or
That he lies still while his geographic location and date changes around him, i.e he goes from the Arctic to a dried water region to the Sahara.
Any thoughts??
While I am on the crazy time possibilities, noticed this too.................
The shot in 'The Shape of Things to Come' (409) really reminded me of the shot in 'Everyman for himself' (304).
The distance, the height, the way Ben looks at it. Just imagine the desert scene filled with water. Maybe the island is always in the same place but thousands of years apart, could this explain the polar bear remains in the desert? I wondered if the snow covered mountains outside the listening station resembled the above but I couldn't find a screen cap.
Hope you loved 'The Shape of Things to Come' as much as I did! So many things to think about!
Thanks ; )
Tuesday, 24 June 2008
UOY ETAH EW or WE HATE YOU
Feb 25th 2008
4.4 Eggtown. As Kate enters the courtroom, amongst the hustle and bustle an aggressive man outside shouts at her. The camera focuses on him. You cannot understand what he shouts but in true Lost style when the audio is reversed it is clear that he shouts “We hate you”.
Check it out
I'm not addressing the content of the message but the delivery. In the 'real world' Humans do not usually speak backwards. I had taken the flash forwards to be in the 'real world'.
I can handle Walt speaking backwards on the island, but I had assumed that the really freaky stuff, visions, whispers, backwards speak, was going to remain on the island. What could this mean?
Does this audio clue suggest that the 'powers ' of the island are no longer exclusive to the island?
Are the Flash forwards about to get crazy, island style?
Are the flash forwards even real?
I know that in 4.1 Hurley also has a vision but because of the 'dave' episode we could put this down to his madness.
Why do you think the writers would include a piece of blatant backwards speak?? I know it could be unimportant, but I think it is really blatant and meant to be heard.
Any thoughts?
I am Smokie 2
Feb 21st 2008
I wrote a theory before the start of S04 called I am Smokie if you want to have a look it would really help the following make sense!
Basically I believe the island is a surveillance technology trial facility. Meaning, some organisation has a goal to eventually replace the worlds need for cctv, judge, jury, police force.
When one of the islands pieces of technology is thoroughly tested and approved it will be implemented in the real world. Or maybe it already has? Meaning for us, the viewer, we are privileged to be watching, through the flashbacks an individuals memory of an event. Who is watching with us?
I know the flashbacks can simply be seen as a story telling device but I think they are more significant there is a big difference between viewing the flashback as 'fact' or 'memory'.
Incidents on island spark memories and this is what we are seeing.
Evidence to take the memory theory seriously came very early in S01 In Jack's crash Flashback
Pilot part 1): The pilot has switched on the fasten seat belt sign..." In Charlie's crash Flashback
Pilot part 2): "The Captain has turned on the fasten seat belt sign..." In Kate's crash Flashback
Pilot part 2): "The Captain has switched on the fasten seat belt sign..."
Note the minor differences in the remembered language. This was not a production error. It is a clue to the flashbacks validity in detail. This is evidence from the outset that memories matter.
What on the island is reading the memories?? I think there are a numerous pieces of equipment on the island that were built for the purpose. In My I am Smokie theory, I figured that smokie is one of these devices for surveillance memory assessment, plus instant judgment.
I propose the Hurley bird is also a piece of airborne surveillance equipment. Acting differently to smokie, The bird/birds may act a bit like the pre-cog's in Minority report.
The birds can sense human stress patterns and swoop to the scene to record the events.
(As a completely out there thought maybe Walt's stress signals are very strong thus the bird like equipment malfunctions around him?? Crash and burn? Room 23?)
It's not too crazy a thought when you bear in mind that Vegas Casinos have surveillance equipment that monitors body language and stress patterns.
But beyond the smaller individual pieces of technology, It may be possible that the island itself contains the ultimate piece of surveillance technology. An all seeing eye, possibly in the form of a quantum computer. (Incidentally a quantum computer could behave exactly like a giant magnet) Could this be why Daniel the Quantum physicist is there to fix a piece equipment?
When the swan imploded it is like Desmond vividly was given access to his memories, he re lived his past that was stored in the quantum computer. Have a look at the following picture of the Widmore office scene, the office inverts, look at the desk and the walls.
The Picture frame change in the ghost buster scene
changes because what we are watching in theory is a constant Computer generated render of a memory, not the actual events. As I mentioned in the I am Smokie theory. These contradictions could either be showing us that a) Detail in memories can be erronous, (flight attendant announcment/picture frames) or b) Some people know the island can download your mind and are presenting false memories to infiltrate.
So that is my thought behind the blatant picture change scene, no parallel worlds, no instantaneous time travel just an incorrect background render by the surveillance machines.
The Progression of Surveillance technology in the western world should be an important debate point, I for one would love for Lost to go in this direction. I think it is highly plausible that the writers are keen to slowly bring these issues to the mass public via the medium of a hit TV show.
Wasn't the shows brief to create a drama like 'survivor' or 'castaway', I can imagine one of the writers saying "Wouldn't it be great if as many people would care about real political issues rather than who will be voted off survivor this week".
Eyeland.
Prepare for the Masterworks of science fiction!
I wrote a theory before the start of S04 called I am Smokie if you want to have a look it would really help the following make sense!
Basically I believe the island is a surveillance technology trial facility. Meaning, some organisation has a goal to eventually replace the worlds need for cctv, judge, jury, police force.
When one of the islands pieces of technology is thoroughly tested and approved it will be implemented in the real world. Or maybe it already has? Meaning for us, the viewer, we are privileged to be watching, through the flashbacks an individuals memory of an event. Who is watching with us?
I know the flashbacks can simply be seen as a story telling device but I think they are more significant there is a big difference between viewing the flashback as 'fact' or 'memory'.
Incidents on island spark memories and this is what we are seeing.
Evidence to take the memory theory seriously came very early in S01 In Jack's crash Flashback
Pilot part 1): The pilot has switched on the fasten seat belt sign..." In Charlie's crash Flashback
Pilot part 2): "The Captain has turned on the fasten seat belt sign..." In Kate's crash Flashback
Pilot part 2): "The Captain has switched on the fasten seat belt sign..."
Note the minor differences in the remembered language. This was not a production error. It is a clue to the flashbacks validity in detail. This is evidence from the outset that memories matter.
What on the island is reading the memories?? I think there are a numerous pieces of equipment on the island that were built for the purpose. In My I am Smokie theory, I figured that smokie is one of these devices for surveillance memory assessment, plus instant judgment.
I propose the Hurley bird is also a piece of airborne surveillance equipment. Acting differently to smokie, The bird/birds may act a bit like the pre-cog's in Minority report.
The birds can sense human stress patterns and swoop to the scene to record the events.
(As a completely out there thought maybe Walt's stress signals are very strong thus the bird like equipment malfunctions around him?? Crash and burn? Room 23?)
It's not too crazy a thought when you bear in mind that Vegas Casinos have surveillance equipment that monitors body language and stress patterns.
But beyond the smaller individual pieces of technology, It may be possible that the island itself contains the ultimate piece of surveillance technology. An all seeing eye, possibly in the form of a quantum computer. (Incidentally a quantum computer could behave exactly like a giant magnet) Could this be why Daniel the Quantum physicist is there to fix a piece equipment?
When the swan imploded it is like Desmond vividly was given access to his memories, he re lived his past that was stored in the quantum computer. Have a look at the following picture of the Widmore office scene, the office inverts, look at the desk and the walls.
The Picture frame change in the ghost buster scene
changes because what we are watching in theory is a constant Computer generated render of a memory, not the actual events. As I mentioned in the I am Smokie theory. These contradictions could either be showing us that a) Detail in memories can be erronous, (flight attendant announcment/picture frames) or b) Some people know the island can download your mind and are presenting false memories to infiltrate. So that is my thought behind the blatant picture change scene, no parallel worlds, no instantaneous time travel just an incorrect background render by the surveillance machines.
The Progression of Surveillance technology in the western world should be an important debate point, I for one would love for Lost to go in this direction. I think it is highly plausible that the writers are keen to slowly bring these issues to the mass public via the medium of a hit TV show.
Wasn't the shows brief to create a drama like 'survivor' or 'castaway', I can imagine one of the writers saying "Wouldn't it be great if as many people would care about real political issues rather than who will be voted off survivor this week".
Eyeland.
Prepare for the Masterworks of science fiction!
I am Smokie
Originally posted on Lost-Theories (RIP)Feb 4th 2008
Part 1
The flashbacks open in one of a few different ways. Left eye Right eye Whoosh noise No whoosh, no eye Is the manner of the opener a clue to how it should be viewed, for example, Left eye could represent a natural memory of an event. Right eye could dictate a creative contrived memory of an event. No whoosh noise, no eye ,fact, what really happened, a window to the past.
Are flashbacks to be trusted.
Part2
There is no doubt in my mind of the Smoke Monsters function. It is one of many trial pieces of surveillance technology on the island.
Built to scan record and administer appropriate judgment on your memories.
The long term goal of testing on the island is to find society a replacement for CCTV, police, judge and jury.
It will live under the cities pop up and scan random members of the public for law breaking. It has the right to judge on site.
Its frightening demeanor and familiar sounds such as the clicking receipt machine, the creaking and the horn are specifically designed to open the necessary areas of the brain for the scan.
If smokie can scan memory and download it, I believe people are watching to see if smokie can judge effectively. Did it kill the bad person, did it leave the good person? Someone is watching to see how well smokie is working.
Are we seeing a number of smokies with programming variations, different test models.
I guess 'extreme testing' would be a good reason for an organisation to stage a crash. To truly test the machines effectiveness, unusual situations with scenarios of genuine heightened emotions would be necessary for the machine to get 'approval'.
Linking to part 1, I think someone on the island knows that exactly what smokie can do, and they have trained themselves to present false memories to infiltrate the island and evade detection by the watchers. Basically someone is not who we know them to be.
I predict that we will see a flashback that contradicts a prior one.
I think Desmond could be a strong contender for this. This may explain why his flashbacks have contradictions.
We have already seen lots of surveillance equipment on the island, In addition I suspect that the Hurley-Bird is also a trial piece of surveillance equipment.
The Masters of science fiction, a recent ABC production has an episode called Watchbird. Watchbird is a short story by Sci-Fi writer Robert Robert Sheckley. It is basically about the development of bird like droids that observe and protect society from the skies. The major issue being "is it wise to sacrifice our liberty in the name of our security?"
The writers in one podcast said about the others, that they are "separate but equal" to smokie. If you think that the surveillance testing ground theory could be right then maybe..........some of the others are a further advancement of surveillance technology, walking talking fleshy discreet machines, designed to be undetectable to normal society. Much better versions of smokie??????
So is the idea that............organisations of the Lost world are experimenting and catching up with the sinister technology penned in the great science-fiction works. Life imitates Art. (For the record I think that the series mentioned above, Masters of Science Fiction has something to do with Lost. Humour me, I link to a clip, it is from an episode released last year called "The Awakening", Terry O'Quinn is the lead playing Albert Skynner, looking very Locke in his green T.
Crazy connections!
And this from an episode called "the Discarded".
Look at the lamp in the bottom right of the pic...Octagonal staff! Masters of Science Fiction is a great series, check it out)
Part 1
The flashbacks open in one of a few different ways. Left eye Right eye Whoosh noise No whoosh, no eye Is the manner of the opener a clue to how it should be viewed, for example, Left eye could represent a natural memory of an event. Right eye could dictate a creative contrived memory of an event. No whoosh noise, no eye ,fact, what really happened, a window to the past.
Are flashbacks to be trusted.
Part2
There is no doubt in my mind of the Smoke Monsters function. It is one of many trial pieces of surveillance technology on the island.
Built to scan record and administer appropriate judgment on your memories.
The long term goal of testing on the island is to find society a replacement for CCTV, police, judge and jury.
It will live under the cities pop up and scan random members of the public for law breaking. It has the right to judge on site.
Its frightening demeanor and familiar sounds such as the clicking receipt machine, the creaking and the horn are specifically designed to open the necessary areas of the brain for the scan.
If smokie can scan memory and download it, I believe people are watching to see if smokie can judge effectively. Did it kill the bad person, did it leave the good person? Someone is watching to see how well smokie is working.
Are we seeing a number of smokies with programming variations, different test models.
I guess 'extreme testing' would be a good reason for an organisation to stage a crash. To truly test the machines effectiveness, unusual situations with scenarios of genuine heightened emotions would be necessary for the machine to get 'approval'.
Linking to part 1, I think someone on the island knows that exactly what smokie can do, and they have trained themselves to present false memories to infiltrate the island and evade detection by the watchers. Basically someone is not who we know them to be.
I predict that we will see a flashback that contradicts a prior one.
I think Desmond could be a strong contender for this. This may explain why his flashbacks have contradictions.
We have already seen lots of surveillance equipment on the island, In addition I suspect that the Hurley-Bird is also a trial piece of surveillance equipment.
The Masters of science fiction, a recent ABC production has an episode called Watchbird. Watchbird is a short story by Sci-Fi writer Robert Robert Sheckley. It is basically about the development of bird like droids that observe and protect society from the skies. The major issue being "is it wise to sacrifice our liberty in the name of our security?"
The writers in one podcast said about the others, that they are "separate but equal" to smokie. If you think that the surveillance testing ground theory could be right then maybe..........some of the others are a further advancement of surveillance technology, walking talking fleshy discreet machines, designed to be undetectable to normal society. Much better versions of smokie??????
So is the idea that............organisations of the Lost world are experimenting and catching up with the sinister technology penned in the great science-fiction works. Life imitates Art. (For the record I think that the series mentioned above, Masters of Science Fiction has something to do with Lost. Humour me, I link to a clip, it is from an episode released last year called "The Awakening", Terry O'Quinn is the lead playing Albert Skynner, looking very Locke in his green T.
Crazy connections!
And this from an episode called "the Discarded".
Look at the lamp in the bottom right of the pic...Octagonal staff! Masters of Science Fiction is a great series, check it out)
Eve.rest
Originally posted on Lost-Theories Jan 15th 2008
A quick thought.....
If you type 'Mount Everest' into Google Earth select the TERRAIN view you get this
the similarity between Everest terrain is remarkably similar to the proposed terrain and size of the lost island. Here is a fan made map with details taken from maps presented to us through various characters.
The next image is a view of Mt Everest from the south, the second is Rousseau's map of the island from the south.
I know these images are far from identical but it gives you an idea that if Everest were surrounded by water the peaks you would expect to see are similar to Rousseau's map, taking weathering and ice disappearance into account.
For the record I hope lost island is not Everest or any other mountain peak of a watery future, just thought it was worth a mention. Everest currently stands at about 8848m above sea level, the islands estimated height is roughly 3000m. The sea level would have to rise by roughly 6000m
The Himalayas are also in one of twelve 12 Vile Vortices's (for those of you that like the vile theory) Was the listening station in the Himalayas? Is the sitar music at the beginning of the scene a clue to the location?
Tibetan and Buddhist influence in the show.
Adam and eve....rest.
In Walkabout Locke says: "Norman Croucher. Norman Croucher, double amputee, no legs. He climbed to the top of Mt. Everest. Why? It was his destiny."
Norman Croucher is a real man. Despite the loss of both his legs Norman has climbed many mountains. Interesting thing about Lockes speech is that Norman Croucher has never climbed Everest................but he plans to in the future. Time clue? Writers error? Or a Locke error, written as a hidden clue to Lockes knowledge or lack of it?
A quick thought.....
If you type 'Mount Everest' into Google Earth select the TERRAIN view you get this
the similarity between Everest terrain is remarkably similar to the proposed terrain and size of the lost island. Here is a fan made map with details taken from maps presented to us through various characters.
The next image is a view of Mt Everest from the south, the second is Rousseau's map of the island from the south.
I know these images are far from identical but it gives you an idea that if Everest were surrounded by water the peaks you would expect to see are similar to Rousseau's map, taking weathering and ice disappearance into account.
For the record I hope lost island is not Everest or any other mountain peak of a watery future, just thought it was worth a mention. Everest currently stands at about 8848m above sea level, the islands estimated height is roughly 3000m. The sea level would have to rise by roughly 6000m
The Himalayas are also in one of twelve 12 Vile Vortices's (for those of you that like the vile theory) Was the listening station in the Himalayas? Is the sitar music at the beginning of the scene a clue to the location?
Tibetan and Buddhist influence in the show.
Adam and eve....rest.
In Walkabout Locke says: "Norman Croucher. Norman Croucher, double amputee, no legs. He climbed to the top of Mt. Everest. Why? It was his destiny."
Norman Croucher is a real man. Despite the loss of both his legs Norman has climbed many mountains. Interesting thing about Lockes speech is that Norman Croucher has never climbed Everest................but he plans to in the future. Time clue? Writers error? Or a Locke error, written as a hidden clue to Lockes knowledge or lack of it?
John Twelve Hawks JXIIH
Originally posted on Lost-Theories (RIP) Dec 12th 2007
Since posting this prior to Season Four, there is so much more evidence to support the following nonsense.
The Traveller was released in 2005. Book one of the The Fourth Realm Trilogy, The Dark River is book two and the yet unnamed third installment is due in 2009.
In a nutshell "In the shadows of modern society an epic battle is fought. One woman is standing between those who try to control mankind and those who will risk their lives for the freedom of us all. On one side the Brethren, using high-end surveillance technology for control, supported by officials and politicians. On the other side the Travelers, the gifted ones, who are able to leave our realm and cross over into other realities."
The author 'is' John Twelve Hawks or J12H or JXIIH or JTH. "John Twelve Hawks lives off the grid." "Both John Twelve Hawks and his American publisher state that he has never met his editor and that he communicates using the Internet and an untraceable satellite phone, usually employing a voice scrambler. No photograph of Twelve Hawks has ever appeared."
I think that the The Fourth Realm Trilogy is written by the Lost people and will become part of the Lost Universe.
The themes in the books could be seen as basic coincidental sci-fi or zeitgeist fodder , however, it's got me thinking. Two outcomes. One, it is related to Lost. Two, it has nothing to do with Lost.
The books and the author have a large mystery surrounding them, there are theories on the identity of the author (Steven Hawking amongst others), and a vast Alternate Reality Gaming network to accompany the book, much like The Lost Experience, The Fourth Realm Trilogy ARG takes fiction and makes it seem 'real'. Most believe the ARG to be a marketing tool for the books.
JTH has given only a few interviews (via sat phone of course). This passage I found interesting
Q: Your novel shows many influences, from Orwell’s 1984 to The Matrix films. What fiction inspired your writing?
A: John Twelve Hawks: ......I have never owned a television............When The Traveler was published, it was amusing to hear how I’d had been influenced by TV shows and movies – such as "Alias" or "Highlander" – that I’ve never seen. Hmmmmm,
rest of interview here http://www.sffworld.com/mul/146p0.html
The first connection I noticed that felt related to Lost was John Twelve Hawks's 'logo' on his website (http://www.randomhouse.com/features/johntwelvehawks/)(worth a look!)
looks very much like the tree mark seen in Lost (One of Us)
Next, A fictional site presented amongst The Fourth Realm Trilogy web presence is the http://www.evergreen-foundation.com/ who "support the work of hundreds of scientists in over 23 different countries" this is one of the companies (also known as the Brethren) that author John Twelve Hawks is fighting against. This portrait used to be on the Evergreen login page....
It is Jeremy Bentham, he is the poster boy of the Evergreen foundation as he designed the Panopticon. It has to be said that he looks a little like Jacob.
(Addition: Since the end of season 4 we now know that Jeremy Bentham plays a much bigger part in Lost than I had imagined when I wrote this theory.)
In addition, other fictional but cannon (In the Fourth Realm Trilogy ARG) sites call the Evergreen Foundation 'three trees'
Notice the three evergreen trees within the Dharma octagon. (The Lost team would have given permission or commissioned it's use in Half Life) These are the things that made me interested in Lost v's JXIIH,
then I read the books.
If you wish to read the books, the following may be a spoiler.... This is the part of the books I find most interesting. The (sinister) Evergreen Foundation built a quantum computer, subatomic particles in an energy field momentarily disappear, on return they were found to contain information, binary information described in the book as "Light and non-Light, the basic language of the universe"
The Brethren realised that the information was from an advanced civilisation (4toes anyone??)......"This civilization has given our scientists new discoveries in physics and computers........If we can learn more about this advanced technology, we'll be able to establish the Panopticon...(We) will finally have the power to watch and control an immense group of people." I think relating to Lost smokie is the plan that will be sent and built in the third book.
A series of smokies that live under our world would eliminate the need for millions of cameras around the world. The idea being, Smokie could pop out of the ground at any moment and scan your memories in detail for law breaking etc and deliver immediate judgement, would certainly have the Big Brother effect plus the benefit of stripping away the 'who watches the watcher' dilemma.
I think the smokie we see could be a prototype and arguably some of the flashbacks are his readings. Here are a few more links from The Fourth Realm Trilogy to Lost: The release date of the first book of The Fourth Realm Trilogy and the final book release fit snugly into the Lost air dates. Character names, Nathan Boone, Michael, John, Shepherd, The Tabula(from Tabula Rasa). Chess and game theory, Light and Dark feature heavily in the books.
Underground bunkers, tunnels and rooms have purpose in the books. A secret guarded 'portable portal' in a box in a temple on an island is used to "leave our realm and cross over into other realities" (incidentally the island in the book is not out at sea but in the middle of a massive lake in Africa...not far from Nigeria!).
(Addition: 'crossing realms' as described in the Fourth Realm Trilogy shows strong links to Lost too since S04 has aired) )
Car accidents play a part in the book. An expert in his scientific field takes on a job only to find he cannot leave the base(Juliete). Use of number codes. Talismans are important in the book as I think they are in Lost (watches, rings, tattos etc). The reluctant hero becomes trapped on an island. Heavy references to literature and philosophers and religion. One character calls everyone 'brutha'. And many more. If (and It's a massive if) the book is part of Lost, it could relate to Lost in a number of ways.
Could the author be Jacob or someone else on the island? TFRT could be there to simply bulk up the mythology when Lost ends. Tailor made sci-fi.
JXIIH got me thinking about Gary Troupe. Bad Twin and the The Fourth Realm Trilogy books and related canon web presence are built to be an expose on the corporate evils of society. If The Fourth Realm Trilogy does prove to be related to Lost it could be flip side of literary propaganda to Bad Twin. Battling factions using fiction and media to sway distract and subtly influence the Lost world populace?
Are the losties part of this propaganda? Is someone banking on/securing their return to expose the islands secrets? I think Bad Twin and Troupe will have further parts in Lost and I hope The Fourth Realm Trilogy does too.
Michael Eisner (chairman and chief executive of Walt Disney Co.) said "[Lost, It's] A crazy project that's never going to work". Makes me think that beyond marketing, the six channels of mass media, broadcasting, publishing, Internet, video games etc could possibly play a larger part in the plot. Maybe it is a coincidence. It's a good read regardless, I'm sure you would enjoy it.......
Here are links to the two books if you fancy a dig
http://tinyurl.com/3ydy6t
http://tinyurl.com/38rado
Since posting this prior to Season Four, there is so much more evidence to support the following nonsense.
The Traveller was released in 2005. Book one of the The Fourth Realm Trilogy, The Dark River is book two and the yet unnamed third installment is due in 2009.
In a nutshell "In the shadows of modern society an epic battle is fought. One woman is standing between those who try to control mankind and those who will risk their lives for the freedom of us all. On one side the Brethren, using high-end surveillance technology for control, supported by officials and politicians. On the other side the Travelers, the gifted ones, who are able to leave our realm and cross over into other realities."
The author 'is' John Twelve Hawks or J12H or JXIIH or JTH. "John Twelve Hawks lives off the grid." "Both John Twelve Hawks and his American publisher state that he has never met his editor and that he communicates using the Internet and an untraceable satellite phone, usually employing a voice scrambler. No photograph of Twelve Hawks has ever appeared."
I think that the The Fourth Realm Trilogy is written by the Lost people and will become part of the Lost Universe.
The themes in the books could be seen as basic coincidental sci-fi or zeitgeist fodder , however, it's got me thinking. Two outcomes. One, it is related to Lost. Two, it has nothing to do with Lost.
The books and the author have a large mystery surrounding them, there are theories on the identity of the author (Steven Hawking amongst others), and a vast Alternate Reality Gaming network to accompany the book, much like The Lost Experience, The Fourth Realm Trilogy ARG takes fiction and makes it seem 'real'. Most believe the ARG to be a marketing tool for the books.
JTH has given only a few interviews (via sat phone of course). This passage I found interesting
Q: Your novel shows many influences, from Orwell’s 1984 to The Matrix films. What fiction inspired your writing?
A: John Twelve Hawks: ......I have never owned a television............When The Traveler was published, it was amusing to hear how I’d had been influenced by TV shows and movies – such as "Alias" or "Highlander" – that I’ve never seen. Hmmmmm,
rest of interview here http://www.sffworld.com/mul/146p0.html
The first connection I noticed that felt related to Lost was John Twelve Hawks's 'logo' on his website (http://www.randomhouse.com/features/johntwelvehawks/)(worth a look!)
looks very much like the tree mark seen in Lost (One of Us)
Next, A fictional site presented amongst The Fourth Realm Trilogy web presence is the http://www.evergreen-foundation.com/ who "support the work of hundreds of scientists in over 23 different countries" this is one of the companies (also known as the Brethren) that author John Twelve Hawks is fighting against. This portrait used to be on the Evergreen login page....
It is Jeremy Bentham, he is the poster boy of the Evergreen foundation as he designed the Panopticon. It has to be said that he looks a little like Jacob.
(Addition: Since the end of season 4 we now know that Jeremy Bentham plays a much bigger part in Lost than I had imagined when I wrote this theory.)
In addition, other fictional but cannon (In the Fourth Realm Trilogy ARG) sites call the Evergreen Foundation 'three trees'
Notice the three evergreen trees within the Dharma octagon. (The Lost team would have given permission or commissioned it's use in Half Life) These are the things that made me interested in Lost v's JXIIH,
then I read the books.
If you wish to read the books, the following may be a spoiler.... This is the part of the books I find most interesting. The (sinister) Evergreen Foundation built a quantum computer, subatomic particles in an energy field momentarily disappear, on return they were found to contain information, binary information described in the book as "Light and non-Light, the basic language of the universe"
The Brethren realised that the information was from an advanced civilisation (4toes anyone??)......"This civilization has given our scientists new discoveries in physics and computers........If we can learn more about this advanced technology, we'll be able to establish the Panopticon...(We) will finally have the power to watch and control an immense group of people." I think relating to Lost smokie is the plan that will be sent and built in the third book.
A series of smokies that live under our world would eliminate the need for millions of cameras around the world. The idea being, Smokie could pop out of the ground at any moment and scan your memories in detail for law breaking etc and deliver immediate judgement, would certainly have the Big Brother effect plus the benefit of stripping away the 'who watches the watcher' dilemma.
I think the smokie we see could be a prototype and arguably some of the flashbacks are his readings. Here are a few more links from The Fourth Realm Trilogy to Lost: The release date of the first book of The Fourth Realm Trilogy and the final book release fit snugly into the Lost air dates. Character names, Nathan Boone, Michael, John, Shepherd, The Tabula(from Tabula Rasa). Chess and game theory, Light and Dark feature heavily in the books.
Underground bunkers, tunnels and rooms have purpose in the books. A secret guarded 'portable portal' in a box in a temple on an island is used to "leave our realm and cross over into other realities" (incidentally the island in the book is not out at sea but in the middle of a massive lake in Africa...not far from Nigeria!).
(Addition: 'crossing realms' as described in the Fourth Realm Trilogy shows strong links to Lost too since S04 has aired) )
Car accidents play a part in the book. An expert in his scientific field takes on a job only to find he cannot leave the base(Juliete). Use of number codes. Talismans are important in the book as I think they are in Lost (watches, rings, tattos etc). The reluctant hero becomes trapped on an island. Heavy references to literature and philosophers and religion. One character calls everyone 'brutha'. And many more. If (and It's a massive if) the book is part of Lost, it could relate to Lost in a number of ways.
Could the author be Jacob or someone else on the island? TFRT could be there to simply bulk up the mythology when Lost ends. Tailor made sci-fi.
JXIIH got me thinking about Gary Troupe. Bad Twin and the The Fourth Realm Trilogy books and related canon web presence are built to be an expose on the corporate evils of society. If The Fourth Realm Trilogy does prove to be related to Lost it could be flip side of literary propaganda to Bad Twin. Battling factions using fiction and media to sway distract and subtly influence the Lost world populace?
Are the losties part of this propaganda? Is someone banking on/securing their return to expose the islands secrets? I think Bad Twin and Troupe will have further parts in Lost and I hope The Fourth Realm Trilogy does too.
Michael Eisner (chairman and chief executive of Walt Disney Co.) said "[Lost, It's] A crazy project that's never going to work". Makes me think that beyond marketing, the six channels of mass media, broadcasting, publishing, Internet, video games etc could possibly play a larger part in the plot. Maybe it is a coincidence. It's a good read regardless, I'm sure you would enjoy it.......
Here are links to the two books if you fancy a dig
http://tinyurl.com/3ydy6t
http://tinyurl.com/38rado
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